Comments on: OH YEAH? WELL… http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/ OPIATE OF THE ASSES Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:36:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: google reklam vermek istiyorum http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/comment-page-1/#comment-58600 google reklam vermek istiyorum Wed, 18 May 2011 21:40:33 +0000 http://www.ginandtacos.com/?p=1673#comment-58600 Very nice thanks a sharing and realy good website.. Very nice thanks a sharing and realy good website..

]]> By: Mike’s Blog Roundup » YoGoG.com http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/comment-page-1/#comment-15005 Mike’s Blog Roundup » YoGoG.com Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:58:16 +0000 http://www.ginandtacos.com/?p=1673#comment-15005 [...] ginandtacos: The difference between the GOP and a monkey is that the latter can learn from its mistakes. [...] [...] ginandtacos: The difference between the GOP and a monkey is that the latter can learn from its mistakes. [...]

]]> By: Batocchio http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/comment-page-1/#comment-15003 Batocchio Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:33:15 +0000 http://www.ginandtacos.com/?p=1673#comment-15003 Right on. Ed, if you haven't read <I>Angler</i> yet, it's got a great section on Jeffords. Cheney pushed very hard to cut him loose, because he felt even a tiny concession (honoring a past promise, actually) would send a bad message and set a bad precedent. Especially because, ya know, Congress shouldn't be an independent body or anything, and control of the Senate isn't that important. Right on. Ed, if you haven't read Angler yet, it's got a great section on Jeffords. Cheney pushed very hard to cut him loose, because he felt even a tiny concession (honoring a past promise, actually) would send a bad message and set a bad precedent. Especially because, ya know, Congress shouldn't be an independent body or anything, and control of the Senate isn't that important.

]]> By: Michael http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/comment-page-1/#comment-14986 Michael Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:51:04 +0000 http://www.ginandtacos.com/?p=1673#comment-14986 Nicely put. I don't understand the claim that this is simply a crass ploy to stay elected. Specter can most likely win the general but would have a bruising fight in the Republican primary. That simply means he and the party are no longer aligned. If Pennsylvanians don't care for his policies, they are perfectly free to vote him out when the time comes. The primary fight is about who best carries the Republican mantle into the general election. It seems like the consensus -- loudest from the Rs right now -- is that Specter is not that person. So how is it opportunism to listen to the chorus of Rs telling him to take a hike? Do people really think that he'd lose a special election right now he stepped down? (The Phil Gramm approach.) Why force the state to pay the money? Nicely put. I don't understand the claim that this is simply a crass ploy to stay elected. Specter can most likely win the general but would have a bruising fight in the Republican primary. That simply means he and the party are no longer aligned. If Pennsylvanians don't care for his policies, they are perfectly free to vote him out when the time comes. The primary fight is about who best carries the Republican mantle into the general election. It seems like the consensus — loudest from the Rs right now — is that Specter is not that person. So how is it opportunism to listen to the chorus of Rs telling him to take a hike? Do people really think that he'd lose a special election right now he stepped down? (The Phil Gramm approach.) Why force the state to pay the money?

]]> By: Prudence http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/comment-page-1/#comment-14974 Prudence Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:40:43 +0000 http://www.ginandtacos.com/?p=1673#comment-14974 Great post, it says concisely and eloquently what I have read online and am too lazy to write about. Love the intelligent measured prose, coupled with the liberal sprinkling of "fuck you!". Great post, it says concisely and eloquently what I have read online and am too lazy to write about. Love the intelligent measured prose, coupled with the liberal sprinkling of "fuck you!".

]]> By: Michael http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/comment-page-1/#comment-14973 Michael Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:11:45 +0000 http://www.ginandtacos.com/?p=1673#comment-14973 Love it, as always. Love it, as always.

]]> By: ladiesbane http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/comment-page-1/#comment-14972 ladiesbane Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:54:15 +0000 http://www.ginandtacos.com/?p=1673#comment-14972 It's nice that Spector has survived his own party's depredations long enough to make this change. Both parties are so different now that it does seem to be appropriate, and I welcome a man who has experience and a conscience. But I still want to slap the piss out of him for what he did to Anita Hill. Very good piece, by the way. ("That's what SHE said.") It's nice that Spector has survived his own party's depredations long enough to make this change. Both parties are so different now that it does seem to be appropriate, and I welcome a man who has experience and a conscience. But I still want to slap the piss out of him for what he did to Anita Hill.

Very good piece, by the way. ("That's what SHE said.")

]]> By: J. Dryden http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/29/oh-yeah-well/comment-page-1/#comment-14971 J. Dryden Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:50:44 +0000 http://www.ginandtacos.com/?p=1673#comment-14971 Thank you for pointing out the facility of the claim that this move of Specter's was merely a mercenary attempt to retain his Senate seat. People making that claim tend to ignore that politics is deeply personal--people go into the shark tank because they believe in something, and they're willing to give their lives over to it. Whether what they believe in is smart, crass, vapid, self-serving or lunatic doesn't matter--to stand for election over and over speaks to belief in principles, and particularly principles of party. Specter has spent his life within and among the party--he knows these people on far more than a first-name basis. This was a huge, irrevocable action, and coming from a man who clearly has no intention of quitting the business (unlike, say, Zell Miller), who will continue to meet and do business with the people he has now publicly denounced, there's no way this was an entirely Machiavellian clutch at re-election. The "Fuck you" element to what he did speaks to deep anger--this was personal in a venue in which the ideological *is* the personal. Thank you for pointing out the facility of the claim that this move of Specter's was merely a mercenary attempt to retain his Senate seat. People making that claim tend to ignore that politics is deeply personal–people go into the shark tank because they believe in something, and they're willing to give their lives over to it. Whether what they believe in is smart, crass, vapid, self-serving or lunatic doesn't matter–to stand for election over and over speaks to belief in principles, and particularly principles of party. Specter has spent his life within and among the party–he knows these people on far more than a first-name basis. This was a huge, irrevocable action, and coming from a man who clearly has no intention of quitting the business (unlike, say, Zell Miller), who will continue to meet and do business with the people he has now publicly denounced, there's no way this was an entirely Machiavellian clutch at re-election. The "Fuck you" element to what he did speaks to deep anger–this was personal in a venue in which the ideological *is* the personal.

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