Comments on: I HOPE TO BE REMEMBERED SO FONDLY

By: MildlyDisturbed

MildlyDisturbed — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:42:18 +0000

I've never called him a child molester. I'm partial to "kiddie pole smoker."

By: Ed

Ed — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:35:00 +0000

Yes, this is definitely the right blog for persuading people with Argument from Ignorance.

By: Kiki

Kiki — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:48:29 +0000

Where do you all get off calling him a child molester? On what FACTS do you base this? He was found NOT GUILTY after being accused by a bunch of zero-credibility, money-grubbing, white trash scumbags. Weirdo? Yes, there are plenty of facts to support that label, but as for the rest, were any of you on the jury? If not, please shut the fuck up.

By: MildlyDisturbed

MildlyDisturbed — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:35:58 +0000

@ladiesbane: My tongue was in my cheek.

By: Elle

Elle — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:47:07 +0000

He was just a kid himself, still.

I've never really understood why this is offered as rebuttal to the notion that MJ was a child molestor. What could be more terrifying that an adult who reasons as a child and is as capricious as a child, and yet has the money, physical autonomy, physical strength, and physical maturity of an adult?

I had the same experience as you, Anemone, but MJ always made my radar ping. FWIW, which is not much.

If you don’t feel pity and sorrow at Mike’s broken and tragic life (even as you feel for his victims’), then you’re not fully human.

I feel real sympathy for Jackson. It seems from the information that's out there that his father was physically (and probably sexually) abusive towards Jackson and his sisters and that this had a devastating effect on him. (Although interesting to note that the same 'innocent until proven guilty' shtick is rarely put forward in Joe Jackson's defense.)

However, having a shitty childhood doesn't allow you to abnegate your responsibilities to be a decent person. Jackson seems to have made a series of choices to surround himself with enablers rather than take a long, hard look at himself. It takes patience, deliberation, props and planning to perpetrate child abuse the way that he supposedly did it and I can't agree that the harm done to him explains the harm he did to others. I also think that men who were sexually abused as children deserve better than this constant repetition of the message that they're a risk to their own children because they might do to others the worst thing that was ever done to them.

By: Anemone

Anemone — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:54:07 +0000

You know, I was sexually abused as a kid, and no one believed me, and yet I was never convinced Jackson was a pervert. He could have been, but at the same time he was such an easy target. He was just a kid himself, still.

By: Clay

Clay — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:21:24 +0000

They found out that he was, in effect, killed by his Doctor. He received a shot of Demerol an hour or so before he died. That, and he was addicted to the same pain pill Rush Limbaugh had been on. (I forget what what it's called.) So the "King of Pop" died pretty much the same way as the "King of Rock". Drug abuse.

By: Erin

Erin — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:22:42 +0000

Farrah Fawcett died and went to heaven. St. Peter gave her one wish. "I just want all children to be safe and sound." St. Peter thought for a moment and killed Michael Jackson.

Greatest day-jack ever. For a Jesus Juicer.

By: Parthenon

Parthenon — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:58:25 +0000

Thing is, Badger, all of this is still just speculation. We don't have any facts by which to judge. I'm not really comfortable mentally convicting somebody via the 'where there's smoke, there's fire' standard.