In the past 10 years or so, it has become wildly unpopular for any pro-choice organization to promote the phrase "safe, legal, and rare." This is mostly because it implies that there is something morally wrong with abortion, a fact that the pro-choice side fights against tooth and nail over the anti-choice factions. They have tried to take morality completely out of the equation and focus simply on the legality of the right to an abortion, I think to appeal to the sense of individual liberties that conservatives often support.

They have failed, however, because ignoring morality in legal issues really isn't possible no matter how many pundits and politicians pretend it is. Ignoring the moral issue or pretending it doesn't exist has been one of the biggest downfalls of pro-choice advocates in recent times.

It is because the construction of "morality" surrounding abortion is constructed in many different ways leaving the ambiguity of "rights," "person-hood," "truth" and the extension of "government" to question. These are issues that no society or person has ever come to a clear conclusion on, and abortion brings all of it into the mix.

If it's pragmatism that we want, then why can't we extend that to how we deal with hardened criminals in the prison system?

Here is my modest proposal. Suppose we build each prison to hold say, about 2,000 criminals. Since the prison population may exceed that number, then when prisoner 2001 arrives, we then execute another prisoner that has already been there the longest. Doing that, we won't have to build new prisons or expand the existing ones. That way, the prison never has more than 2,000.

Also, it might be cheaper to dispense with electricity, gas, firing squad, or hanging for the executions. Maybe we should borrow from the abortionists and use some of their methods. It's for the common good.

"“HOMICIDE, n. The slaying of one human being by another. There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable, and praiseworthy, but it makes no great difference to the person slain whether he fell by one kind or another –the classification is for advantage of the lawyers.”

Ambrose Bierce (The Old Gringo)

What this does is strand those most in need of help.

Stupak is one of the reasons Eli is not contributing to the DCCC anymore. If they want my money they should not give him any of it.

Pro-lifers need to admit that the only way they can stop women from being, well, human, is to control them.

Fixed.

Displaced Captialist Concern Troll:

A concern troll is one who pretends they're on your side, only to attack your position, right? Well, as I mentioned above, I don't really like either Pro-whatever groups because they're so blinded by their ideology that there is no reasoning with them–they become the anti-choice and anti-life movements. Since you appear to be one of them, I don't want to pretend like I'm on your side.

What? Never heard of “Safe, Rare, and Legal”?

No.

It is the MANTRA of the pro-choice movement.

Well if it is the the movement has done a lousy job of getting the mantra out to the masses, I've never heard of it before. (And I'd like to think of myself as well-informed, but, perhaps I'm not?)

Pro-Choice is about a WOMAN HAVING THE RIGHT TO DECIDE what happens in her reproductive ladyparts. Whether that means CHOOSING to have a baby or CHOOSING to terminate the pregnancy.

Agreed.

It also includes her CHOICE about how she wants to PREVENT pregnancy – or not.

Agreed.

Seriously, I have never met a woman….even a second wave Andrea Dworkin type of feminist who was into abortion as a means of birth control. Jesus man, it is a wrenching and unpleasant procedure that ANYONE would choose to avoid if at all possible.

Me neither. It is a tragic decision that women should not make lightly. But statistics and news from seemingly legitimate sources seem to indicate otherwise. With one of every four pregnancies ending in abortion in the US and half of all the abortions second or even third time abortions, I am doubtful that they are all done by well-educated feminists who are painfully aware of the tragedy of their decision.

Pro-choicers need to admit that abortion occurs way too often and that there is a real need to reduce abortion.

Pro-lifers need to admit that the only way they can stop humans from being, well, human, is to educate them.

And don’t forget the shrimp. God said those are against the law as well.

Actually Jesus let us off the hook for that one in some other obscure part. Sadly I forget the details.

But I'm pretty sure you're right on the sperm spilling business. We need to go around with a UV light, charging people with mass murder as we go (at least an abortion only kills ONE person. Each ejaculation kills hundreds of thousands to millions. And frankly they're all of the same race, so whacking off is pretty much genocide (for the boys, no harm done ladies!). I say it's time we start getting all these war criminals off our streets!