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	<description>OPIATE OF THE ASSES</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/11/18/some-pantload-gets-the-fjm-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-31567</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If congress does nothing then the estate tax comes back at the original rate, because Bush passed the tax reduction under reconciliation and it increased the deficit, it was required to sunset automatically after 10 years.  All they have to do is not act to get rid of the estate tax.  One of the few times that Democrats can accomplish their goals through obstruction alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If congress does nothing then the estate tax comes back at the original rate, because Bush passed the tax reduction under reconciliation and it increased the deficit, it was required to sunset automatically after 10 years.  All they have to do is not act to get rid of the estate tax.  One of the few times that Democrats can accomplish their goals through obstruction alone.</p>
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		<title>By: MCM97</title>
		<link>http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/11/18/some-pantload-gets-the-fjm-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-19724</link>
		<dc:creator>MCM97</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI that income has already been taxed ONCE...how many more times do you want to tax it??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI that income has already been taxed ONCE&#8230;how many more times do you want to tax it??</p>
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		<title>By: Eunum</title>
		<link>http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/11/18/some-pantload-gets-the-fjm-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-19637</link>
		<dc:creator>Eunum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently there are no estate attorneys in Maine available for consultation on this generations.  For six generations.  My, my.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently there are no estate attorneys in Maine available for consultation on this generations.  For six generations.  My, my.</p>
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		<title>By: Desargues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desargues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, JB. Aptly STATed, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, JB. Aptly STATed, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzbumpa</title>
		<link>http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/11/18/some-pantload-gets-the-fjm-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-19628</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzbumpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake -

Better to simply abandon conservatism, (and the canard of taxation as punishment) altogether.

From a report to Congress:

&lt;i&gt;Evidence suggests, however, that only a small fraction of estates with small or
family business interests have paid the estate tax (about 3.5% for businesses in
general, and 5% for farmers, compared to 2% for all estates). Recent estimates
suggest that only a tiny fraction of family owned businesses (less than ½ of 1%) are subject to the estate tax but do not have readily available resources to pay the tax.  Thus, while the estate tax may be a burden on those families, the problem is confined  to a small group.&lt;/i&gt;

http://digital.library.unt.edu/govdocs/crs/permalink/meta-crs-7805:1

Cheers!
JzB the librull trombonist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake -</p>
<p>Better to simply abandon conservatism, (and the canard of taxation as punishment) altogether.</p>
<p>From a report to Congress:</p>
<p><i>Evidence suggests, however, that only a small fraction of estates with small or<br />
family business interests have paid the estate tax (about 3.5% for businesses in<br />
general, and 5% for farmers, compared to 2% for all estates). Recent estimates<br />
suggest that only a tiny fraction of family owned businesses (less than ½ of 1%) are subject to the estate tax but do not have readily available resources to pay the tax.  Thus, while the estate tax may be a burden on those families, the problem is confined  to a small group.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://digital.library.unt.edu/govdocs/crs/permalink/meta-crs-7805:1" rel="nofollow">http://digital.library.unt.edu/govdocs/crs/permalink/meta-crs-7805:1</a></p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
JzB the librull trombonist</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh* This shit is why I&#039;m sad to be conservative.... 

There are literally hundreds of valid points in support of and against estate tax and yet he manages to make NONE of them...

But as a side note, are you suggesting that those small sole proprietor businesses who are hardest hit by this tax (seeing as they, unlike corporations, pass down the business and all the capital investment in it rather than just income and personal property) should be punished because the &quot;moved your job to Indonesia&quot;? Last time I checked, not a lot of small businesses had enough capital to a) buy foreign holdings b) ship goods to the U.S. and c) hire all the lawyers needed to deal with the legal mess caused by a and b. Or wait... maybe you want to punish them because their children are being handed millions in assets that they will then use to create jobs and buy products in the U.S. 

Now obviously, anyone who &quot;owns&quot; a corporation (i.e. their stock, not capital investment) would by happy to be rid of the estate tax, allowing their kids keep all of their &quot;unearned income&quot;. One can certainly argue that making the rich who own (basically) only liquid assets pay most of it at death provides social benefit by making the kids create new wealth. Isn&#039;t it silly, though, to make family businesses either keep up to half of their assets liquid (and thus not creating jobs, and not creating demand for goods because they can&#039;t spend it) or requiring the the whole or part of the family business be liquidated each generation to pay off a large tax? 

I would think that just letting those businesses be would be much more economically optimal. Its a simple fix too. You just make an exception for property necessary for the family business. Sure there would be legal loop-holes, but saving so much economic growth while still punishing the job exporters you so love to hate would be worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* This shit is why I&#039;m sad to be conservative&#8230;. </p>
<p>There are literally hundreds of valid points in support of and against estate tax and yet he manages to make NONE of them&#8230;</p>
<p>But as a side note, are you suggesting that those small sole proprietor businesses who are hardest hit by this tax (seeing as they, unlike corporations, pass down the business and all the capital investment in it rather than just income and personal property) should be punished because the &#034;moved your job to Indonesia&#034;? Last time I checked, not a lot of small businesses had enough capital to a) buy foreign holdings b) ship goods to the U.S. and c) hire all the lawyers needed to deal with the legal mess caused by a and b. Or wait&#8230; maybe you want to punish them because their children are being handed millions in assets that they will then use to create jobs and buy products in the U.S. </p>
<p>Now obviously, anyone who &#034;owns&#034; a corporation (i.e. their stock, not capital investment) would by happy to be rid of the estate tax, allowing their kids keep all of their &#034;unearned income&#034;. One can certainly argue that making the rich who own (basically) only liquid assets pay most of it at death provides social benefit by making the kids create new wealth. Isn&#039;t it silly, though, to make family businesses either keep up to half of their assets liquid (and thus not creating jobs, and not creating demand for goods because they can&#039;t spend it) or requiring the the whole or part of the family business be liquidated each generation to pay off a large tax? </p>
<p>I would think that just letting those businesses be would be much more economically optimal. Its a simple fix too. You just make an exception for property necessary for the family business. Sure there would be legal loop-holes, but saving so much economic growth while still punishing the job exporters you so love to hate would be worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzbumpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzbumpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Des -

I think that is called a reSTATEment.

Cheers!
JzB the amateur philologist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Des -</p>
<p>I think that is called a reSTATEment.</p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
JzB the amateur philologist</p>
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		<title>By: Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/11/18/some-pantload-gets-the-fjm-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-19583</link>
		<dc:creator>Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is a retard, my family has owned land in Kansas for 100 years &amp; never had a problem.  Moron want a tax attorney? Granted he owns 10x our land plus or minus some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is a retard, my family has owned land in Kansas for 100 years &amp; never had a problem.  Moron want a tax attorney? Granted he owns 10x our land plus or minus some.</p>
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		<title>By: Desargues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desargues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beau: That&#039;s what she said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beau: That&#039;s what she said.</p>
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