INSUFFICIENTLY DICTATORIAL

After six years of listening to everyone to the right of Ben Nelson call Obama a tyrant and a dictator – possibly one unequaled in history – we now get to listen to all of the same people complain that Obama didn't unilaterally decree that no commercial flights from regions with Ebola outbreaks can enter the United States. And furthermore that no U.S. citizen who has been exposed to the disease can re-enter the country except under some sort of highly restrictive quarantine.

So you see, the problem here is that Obama is not dictatorial enough.

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Or something. I'm sure the same people who think they need to hoard guns because the government is making them buy subsidized health insurance would be positively laudatory if Obama announced that he was going to decide who gets to enter and leave the country.
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This is why I stopped paying attention to domestic partisan politics a year or two ago. The vast majority of it is people repeating things they heard some right-wing talk show how say, things that a ten second application of logic or basic fact checking could render meaningless.

32 thoughts on “INSUFFICIENTLY DICTATORIAL”

  • If Obama *did* make such a decree, within 60 seconds Fox News would be be "How dare he! Who does he think he is! Freedom to travel is our right as Americans! Draconian!"

    60 seconds. Maybe less.

  • Everything makes sense when you realize that Obama is an African dictator. Obamaism. It's like Mobutuism except half the fun. Well, not really fun at all, actually. But now with ebola.

  • If the man walked on water there would be something wrong with his shoes.

    Having a black man in the White House has sure stirred up a lot of trouble but just thank God for Sarah Palin. If it weren't for Klondike Barbie, John McCain would likely be POTUS and we would really be in a bunch of crap by now. We'd be bombin' the A-Rabs, the Eye-Rainians, the Ruskis an' anbody else who dast squint the wrong way at our fair Land-O-Tha-Free.
    Yep, every time I see a clip of Fair Sarah spouting some lame BS I get a good laugh and I say bless her stoopid little head, and her whiney big mouth.

    p.s. Maybe all this trouble will finally drag all the crap out into the light so we can finally get down to lancing this race boil that afflicts America. I don't know how it will all work out but I guess it's past time to face the Terrible Awful. We all need to eat two slices.

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  • things that a ten second application of logic or basic fact checking could render meaningless

    This applies to at least 90% of all political statements everywhere, although I'm prepared to believe US domestic politics are worse than average. (See also: Sturgeon's Law.)

  • Then there the other conservative complaint: Obama is doing the right thing, but for the wrong reason!

    Republican Ayotte was complaining these past few days that Obama is fighting ISIS alright, but only because he wants Dems to win the Mid Terms!! (As if GOPers did anything with NO concern for the Mid Terms…)

  • Conservatives came out in favor of obesity in response to Michelle Obama's Let's Move. Sarah Palin lifted the Big Gulp at CPAC to cheers.

    That's when I started to suspect conservatives don't have the country's best interests at heart.

  • skwerlhugger says:

    Certainly conservatives have the country's best interests at heart, because they have their own best interests at heart, and that is what is best for the country. The old (and falsely quoted) "what's good for GM…". It sounds trivial, but it's pretty much the core of all this. They oppose anything Obama does, because he's bad and wrong. They are being patriots by always opposing him.

    Raising the more elemental side point of communications– they don't communicate the way most do. They use language in a different way. Words aren't so much to send facts and specifics, as emotions. At the lizard-brain level, "Obama is a socialist dictator" isn't intended to be literal. It conveys an emotion, Obama is bad and wrong. That's their objective, and they succeed. The fact that you challenge their statements baffles and infuriates them. It is true, by their criteria. You're just talking past each other.

    So why *is* Obama bad and wrong? Because he's a fucking nigger, obviously.

  • Obama's kind of a "Clinton mk][", when I'd hoped for a "Roosevelt mkIII" and he's half Kansan, but better than McCain-Palin.

  • Beauty, skwerlhugger.

    Discovered John K. Galbraith's The Age of Uncertainty this weekend, wherein is a section contrasting Swiss direct democracy and U.S. representative democracy. Direct responsibility for government decisions versus delegated decision-making.

    We all know that most of us view elections as some mysterious but annoying civic duty, wherein we have to loyally show up and vote for our team. The thoughtful actually come up with some issues-related excuses and rationalizations for doing this, but that's the exception.
    Me Good! Not-me Bad! is the operant level of thought, and, as skwerl describes, especially if Not-me has browner skin.

    Charles Pierce today has a piece, The Antifreeze of Competence describing the latest dogwhistle in the same key as "leadership."

    "Competence." "Leadership." I.e., someone else – an old white male, of course – to do the hard thinking and decision making, pointing the way for the herd to follow.

    Fascism never goes out of style, eh?

  • I heard one of those knuckleheads call for the killing of anyone who contracts the Ebola virus. For the good of the children, of course. Much praise followed from his comrades for saying "what everyone was thinking".

  • "The vast majority of it is people repeating things they heard some right-wing talk show how say, things that a ten second application of logic or basic fact checking could render meaningless."

    It all makes sense if you apply a healthy dose of "BECAUSE SHUT UP, THAT'S WHY!!"

    FYFY

  • c u n d gulag says:

    Here's what the base told to believe:.
    And home, O'Blackie is brutal Tyrant like Nero, Caligula, Hitler, Stalin, and Moa.

    Outside of our borders, he's a peacenik pussy, a combo of an appeaser like Chamberlain, a conscientious objector.

    Cognitive dissonance is the feature, not a bug.

    It's also the "default position."

  • There doesn't seem to be any recognition of cognitive dissonance whatsoever for this, at least on the part of libertarians. Obama should have closed the borders and banned air travel from countries where Ebola was found because it is a real and actual threat, even though there has been only one case of confirmed Ebola found in the US, and it is still a rare occurrence even in the countries that are hardest hit by it right now (rare, at least, relative to AIDS, malaria, and the goddamn flu). Meanwhile, we can't have mandatory vaccination because that would be a response to a theoretical or hypothetical threat, a few people have gotten bad reactions with their vaccines, have become sick with the diseases against which they were supposed to be vaccinated, or have become asymptomatic carriers who made other people sick, and besides which, modern sanitation and the other trappings of first world 21st century society have made transmission of the old viral killers less likely to be passed on. Never mind that tens of thousands of people die of the flu every year and there are outbreaks of measles and whooping cough going on right now.

  • Y'all are so smart that you have me nailed as a Racist…Good Job!

    If Mr. Obama were 1/4 Black instead of 1/2 Black, I would be FOR the Affordable Care Act.

    If Mr. Obama were 1/8 Black, I would be FOR the ACA and his comprehensive immigration plan (which I opposed under W)

    If Mr. Obama were 1/16 Black, I would be for all the above plus his Environmental Plan.

    And, if Mr. Obama were completely a White Man, I would be for his total program on every subject.

    Yes, Lefties, it is just that I hate Black people in general and Mr….uh Obama in particular (never mind that I have Black people in my Family)

    //bb

  • Did someone direct an accusatory comment at bb, which I'm not able to see? From here it looks like he's having a conversation entirely within his own head.

  • BB –

    Where in these comments did anybody say anything about you?

    There's a particular brand of racist conservative that's being pilloried here, and there is no reason for you to take offense, is there?

    It's possible to overplay the racist angle. Look at what the Rethugs tried to do to Clinton, and he's pasty-faced.

    But there's a whole different flavor to right wing craziness these days and it most assuredly revolves around the skin color of the foreign-born muslim fascist pussy usurper in the white house.

    If you don' think so, you are deep in denial, my friend.

    JzB

  • Skepticalist says:

    "Some people say," As Jon Stewart pointed out, is all Fox News and right wing fear channel bloviators need for reliable sources.

    Obama and the left are wasting too much time trying to be sure what's really what. This is the way of Ebola politics.

    "Send 'em back to Africa!"

  • Very facile, y'all. Nobody said that I was racist per se, of course…

    It is undeniable starting with that repulsive Ms Garafalo back in the day that ANYONE Right of Center who criticizes Mr. Obama is a racist.

    A far as denial goes, if you haven't absorbed that you're the one who is in deep.

    Yeah Bill, in my Family. Love them very much you asshole…

    //bb

  • I kind of feel like if The War On Terror had been a real thing instead of a scam, maybe we'd be prepared for a serious infectious disease outbreak. But it wasn't and we aren't.

  • Captain Blicero says:

    @ Fred

    You must be drunk. McCain was going down with or without Palin. Some Rs I know jumped ship because of her (and then voted for Romney four years later) but there is no reason to think that Obama doesn't win 08 because McCain picked a different VP.

  • JazzBumpa: if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

    Ah, so in other words, dear old bb is simply protesting too much. I figured.

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