In the early stages of any foreign policy crisis – long before anyone knows what actually happened – only one thing can be certain: Noted Foreign Policy Expert John McCain will be on TV talking about it, and by "talking about it" I mean waving his dick around.

Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) declared on Thursday there would be "incredible repercussions" if Russian forces or pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine shot down the Malaysian flight that crashed earlier in the day.

In an appearance on MSNBC shortly after news of the crash broke, McCain stressed it was too early to come to definite conclusions. However, he pointed out Ukrainian aircraft have previously been shot down in recent days and "mistaken identification" of the Malaysian plane could be "part of a pattern" that demands a powerful reaction from the United States.

"This was an airliner headed towards Russian airspace and it has the earmarks — and I'm not concluding — but it has the earmarks of a mistaken identification of an aircraft that they may have believed was Ukrainian. If that's true, this is a horrible tragic event which was certainly unanticipated by anybody no matter who they are. And there will be incredible repercussions if this is the case," he said. "If it is the result of either separatist or Russian actions mistakenly believing that this is a Ukrainian warplane, I think there's going to be hell to pay and there should be."

I wonder if he knows he's not the president.

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  • "If it is the result of either separatist or Russian actions mistakenly believing that this is a Ukrainian warplane, I think there's going to be hell to pay and there should be."

    And if it is the fault of Poroshenko's forces, a very likely possibility given the the direction of the flight? Oh…Right…Nothing. McCain's hate-boner for Russia can most likely be explained by looking into his campaign funders.

  • There was a time when I sort of respected McCain, notably when he told a crowd of rabid Republicans during the presidential campaign that Obama was a loving father and "not an Arab." As I recall, he was booed for that.
    Now he's joined the Real Republican party, and wants to see news video of American soldiers pointing guns at children on the Mexican border.
    Not to mention wanting to go to war with just about everybody.
    The thought that he (and his lunatic running mate) could have been running the country is some scary sh!t. We should count our blessings.

  • Bitter Scribe says:

    So they shouldn't do like Reagan did when we shot down that Iranian airliner and say it was justified?

  • Here's a guy I thought made occasional trips to reality. Scott is right though. He now belongs to the Real Republicans.

    He would make a terrific cold warrior of the 1950s.


  • Los Marathons says:

    Let's see… A Malaysian airliner heading to the Netherlands, shot down over Ukrainian airspace. This calls for some good ol' fashion American intervention!

  • Seriously, just tell the Republican party that it was full of Central American children headed for the US border, and they'd be tripping over themselves to claim credit for shooting it down.
    For fuck's sake- can we wait to see what the fuck happened before launching bombs?!?!?!?!?
    Dr. Strangelove, here we come.

  • @ Scott: Nah, by the time he did that, he'd already lost any claim to anyone's respect (much less admiration) by signing Gov. Palin on to the team. That's pretty much the point at which everyone quite rightly turned their backs on him.

    The McCain of 1999, who came out of nowhere, an honest-to-God Republican with values that were his own and not a focus group's, and whose campaign was butchered by the villainy of Karl Rove–that guy, I could get with. Oh, I'd never have voted for him, but he spoke from a point of sanity and earned conviction. (Plus, he wasn't a loon when it came to abortion, stem-cells, etc.)

    But Palin did it for me–I will never regard him as anything other than the guy who tried mightily to put THAT into the likely-to-be-needed Veep slot, and who succeeded in making her part of our national consciousness. He did that. Him.

    And now his friends–the press, the folks across the aisle who knew him as a good guy to cut a deal with–have cut him loose–and he's become exactly what the far far right lampooned him as all those years ago: an angry, bitter, spiteful old man, more inclined to lose his temper than to react with measured sense.

    He lost, badly, and he's decided to hate the world forever and loudly, despite knowing less and less about it with each passing minute. Fuck him and the miserable state that continues to puke him back up to D.C. every six years.

  • anotherbozo says:

    The more we see of McCain these days, the more we realize that McCain/Palin was a well-matched ticket.

    Interestingly Charles Pierce "targeted" (loathsome word) the same news item, and noted the same senator offering his keen and judicious observations.

  • McCain didn't "come out of nowhere" in 1999 with homespun values. He was in the Senate in the '80s raking in bribes — excuse me, campaign contributions — from people who were hip deep in the savings and loan scandal.

  • Gerald McGrew says:

    "There's going to be hell to pay"? Like what?

    That's what I don't get about all the right-wing rhetoric about Obama being Putin's sex slave and what a "real man" would do if only he were President. What exactly are they talking about? Invading Russia? Starting WWIII? What beyond the actions that have already been taken do they think we should do?

    And it's not that I really expect them to be specific that frustrates me; it's that not one single member of our national press ever bothers to ask the question in any serious manner. They may ask them "What would YOU do" , but once the ring-winger spouts a non-answer about "stronger action" that "lets Russia know we're serious", they just move on to the next question rather than follow-up with, "I'm still not clear…what EXACTLY are you suggesting the President do?"

    Asking tough questions of our "leaders" and not stopping until they give a meaningful answer…what a concept.

  • @ Skipper: I meant only that he came out of nowhere in terms of a campaign narrative that had drearily settled on Bush long before it should have. I know he was one of the Keating Five, but if I was going to forgive John Glenn (and I was, because of COURSE I was), I had to cut McCain (whose involvement, like Glenn's, was deemed minimal-to-the-point-of-innocuous) the same slack. However, should you wish to retreat further up the river of his career to find the point at which McCain became worthless, I will not quibble, given what we're stuck with in the here-and-now: to wit, him.

  • Oh he knows he's not President because he can't send Sarah P off to do fact finding in Lower Slobovia.

  • John McCain has been a shitheel for much if not all of his life.

    I have several friends who thought very highly of his "honesty" and "straight talk". Of course they didn't know about his wife's problems with living with the asshole or any of the other stuff that's happened over the years.

  • "I wonder if he knows he's not the president."

    Of course he knows, and it's been gnawing at him for 6 years. That the President is actually Obama (twice!) just makes the agony that much keener. He's a sleazy, resentful, angry old bastich, and he's still more than twice as human as the rest of his political horror show.

  • I always picture McCain heading home after a long day of urging unnecessary wars against random countries to play war with his GI Joes in the basement.

  • c u n d gulag says:

    When McCain waves his dick around, people often wonder why he keeps a deceased miniature albino mouse in his trousers!

  • I wonder what McCain thought about the Russian Military shooting down Korean Airline flight KAL007 in 1983. A US Congressman Larry McDonald was on that flight and was killed. It was about the time McCain was entering politics, so the google machine isn't turning up much about McCain and KAL007.
    Did St Ronnie give them hell? Well, he gave the Evil Empire a severe tongue lashing and called it a massacre.
    As far as retaliation, he left it up to the states. Some states banned Stolichnaya Vodka.

  • Skipper Says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    McCain didn't "come out of nowhere" in 1999 with homespun values. He was in the Senate in the '80s raking in bribes — excuse me, campaign contributions — from people who were hip deep in the savings and loan scandal.

    * * * * *

    He's had the uncanny ability to avoid responsibility for anything stupid, dishonest or wrong-headed he has ever done going back to his academy days. You hate to say it, but America would have been better off if he hadn't survived the Hanoi Hilton.

  • "…but America would have been better off if he hadn't survived the Hanoi Hilton."

    You may hate to say it, I don't.

    If the Rolling Stone article that Neal Deesit linked to earlier in the thread is true then it's pretty obvious that McCain actually wangled favorable treatment because he was the son of a U.S. Admiral. I might well have done the same thing but I would not have wrapped myself in the flag, later, to gain votes.

  • You just had to put that image of John McCain waving his dick around in my head. Now it will probably be like one of those awful tunes that sticks in your brain all day.

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